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По умолчанию A little bit of flood: why do you hack?

In this topic I wanna ask about why do you hack? Is it hobby, is it job or something else.
For me hack is hobby. I`m interested in new knowledges in web-vulns. I never make defaces, destroy sites\forums. Almost the only thing interesting for me is to get access to site.
 
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I like to find different vulnerabilities on Web sites and give tests to people
and I want to Say Finding vulnerabilies Its MY life !
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I never make defaces, destroy sites\forums
but what are you doing its cool ;)
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I never make defaces
You miss lots of fun! xD
I think, now everyone will say that it's just a hobby... but some time later it always becomes a way of earning some money, isn't it? :wink:
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You miss lots of fun!
I don`t find it funny
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some time later it always becomes a way of earning some money
May be later, but now I don`t earn a lot of moneys in hacking. I have another job. When I`ll be an pensioner - I'll become a real hacker :coolman:
 
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I think - hacking it is not hobby or job or smth else, hacking it is life style. And it is my life style. I wanna be a political leader in my future, and I learn Social Engineering. But I don't learn it for my future job, I learn it because I like it, because it is interesting to find bugs in universal people brains, because it is my life style. Every 2nd day in the morning I go to http://sebug.net/bbs/ http://inj3ct0r.com/ http://www.social-engineer.org/ http://www.exploit-db.com/ and many Chinese bug date base. And I can't live without new bugs. every 3rd day in evening I try to hack or find bug on gov, edu sites or in interesting sites.

defaces!? I like defaces, but I like Shells more than defaces and it is better, I think=).

// Also I learn C++ it is Hard 4 me but it is interesting 4 me too.

And My friends say "You are like drug user - when u near PCs - you so happy =)// but u also Social Engineer - u always make people do what u want". You life style is different... so it is life style.

Money!? - I don't earn a lot too. it is nearly 100 green per month, but I think it is work it is hobby - life style.

Oh, I have many mistakes... My english is bad) //English interesting too...)

oh oh ooh and don't mind that I am philosopher =) it is just IMHO ^^
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RolexXak:
I hate to break it to you but uploading shells, defacing sites, flooding shit, etc... is extremely frowned upon in the professional field.
By going to http://inj3ct0r.com/ , http://sebug.net/bbs/ , and whatever else is listed you are literally doing a job that a 12 year old can do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie

Yes, using the exploits and gaining illegal access to a site is technically "hacking" except it creates a few problems:
1) You become lazy, why try if the answer is already there?
2) You stunt your knowledge because you don't know what the code does.

Where if you did it yourself:
1) Hard work pays off...
2) You have the pride to say that was your exploit that you found.
3) You learn and build dendrites when you think


Hacking isn't going to help you be a political leader. If you want to be a political leader immerse yourself in academia rather than child's play.

There is little money to be made with hacking. Most hackers that have made a living form hacking have been caught and are now in prison.

As for the idea that hacking has become your lifestyle...
Sure your everyday actions can be influenced by what you do online but it is an unhealthy one. Spending most of your hours indoors on a machine is extremely stressful on the body. The chances of you becoming a professional hacker or anything along the lines of that is an extremely low chance.

Pen-testers make shit money, i couldn't imagine trying to make a living off of it.
 
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VENOMbI4, LOL!!! Have a look at the forum-name:
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RolexXak:
I hate to break it to you but uploading shells, defacing sites, flooding shit, etc... is extremely frowned upon in the professional field.
By going to http://inj3ct0r.com/ , http://sebug.net/bbs/ , and whatever else is listed you are literally doing a job that a 12 year old can do. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_kiddie
I know, what mean - Script Kiddie.

Oh, u didn't understand ^^. Maybe my english is too bad.

I like make deface, but when I have made defaces - it shows 4 Admins, that there are BUGs.

Shells!? I don't think that -only SKs upload shells - it is useful.

SKs uses bugs, which was found by another hacker.
But I study/learn the CODE of exploit. Because I wanna create my own exploits. But now I'm not professional coder

If u will find SQL-inj, than if u will do steps which is known, will u be script kiddie!? I think, no u won't. Because u will know the steps, u will know how u must use sql-inj and u will know language -sql, etc.

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Yes, using the exploits and gaining illegal access to a site is technically "hacking" except it creates a few problems:
1) You become lazy, why try if the answer is already there?
2) You stunt your knowledge because you don't know what the code does.
1 - Lazy?! hm. If u only use foreign code - maybe.
2 - lol - I learn the code - 4 example - I don't know perl - But I try to understand code, and when I will start to learn perl, it will helps me.

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Where if you did it yourself:
1) Hard work pays off...
2) You have the pride to say that was your exploit that you found.
3) You learn and build dendrites when you think
Everybody know about it, I think so.

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Hacking isn't going to help you be a political leader. If you want to be a political leader immerse yourself in academia rather than child's play.
It was a little bit of compare // I think Good political men - it is good Social Engineer.
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There is little money to be made with hacking. Most hackers that have made a living form hacking have been caught and are now in prison.
I know, because I was under judge. And my kinsman was 6 month in prison (in German).

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As for the idea that hacking has become your lifestyle...
Sure your everyday actions can be influenced by what you do online but it is an unhealthy one. Spending most of your hours indoors on a machine is extremely stressful on the body. The chances of you becoming a professional hacker or anything along the lines of that is an extremely low chance.

Pen-testers make shit money, i couldn't imagine trying to make a living off of it.
u right about health... of cause people must think about their health.:yes:
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OMG, hardly managed to understand what Rolex have written... xD
This phrase kills me:
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:ag: Lots of grammar mistakes, Rolex... how long have you been studying English?
You'd better add your translation in Russian under the spoiler tag! xD

PS I'm not about to criticize you, but... It's rather difficult to read, you know...
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Do you wanna be my teacher)// Just begun ^^
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I think all of you know that every hacker at first was just script kiddy. So there is nothing awfull in it.
RolexXak is right - using another's exploits makes you better hacker if try to understand what you (and exploit) are doing. And if you just copy/paste (Kvatra, hi!) - you will be always just script kiddy.
 
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Frequently I hack only to have fun.
For example when I hack Radmin,with brute,I have fun to do little moving of users mouse and pressing on keyboard some buttons that users not need to use.I'd like to see how to lamer trying to click and type for fail again and again...

Sometimes I hack when I want to relax.Sometimes I hack because my friens asked me to do that.Rarely I hack for money...

Sorry if I have grammatical mistakes!
 
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it's very interesting, every person want power, access to the mail for example
 
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Frequently I hack only to have fun.
For example when I hack Radmin,with brute,I have fun to do little moving of users mouse and pressing on keyboard some buttons that users not need to use.I'd like to see how to lamer trying to click and type for fail again and again...

Sometimes I hack when I want to relax.Sometimes I hack because my friens asked me to do that.Rarely I hack for money...
 
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I hack mostly because I'm curious. Sometimes I cause damage, sometimes I don't.
 
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